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Obama address the UN 09-23-2009
Published on September 28, 2009 By taltamir In Politics

From the whitehouse, you can get a transcript of obama's address to the UN:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-to-the-United-Nations-General-Assembly/

Excerpt from address to UN (bolding and italicizing done by me - nothing removed or changed or reordered in this portion of the speech. Portions before and after dealt with other issues, such as climate change):

I will also continue to seek a just and lasting peace between Israel, Palestine, and the Arab world.  (Applause.)  We will continue to work on that issue.  Yesterday, I had a constructive meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Abbas.  We have made some progress.  Palestinians have strengthened their efforts on security.  Israelis have facilitated greater freedom of movement for the Palestinians.  As a result of these efforts on both sides, the economy in the West Bank has begun to grow.  But more progress is needed.  We continue to call on Palestinians to end incitement against Israel, and we continue to emphasize that America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.  (Applause.) 

The time has come -- the time has come to re-launch negotiations without preconditions that address the permanent status issues:  security for Israelis and Palestinians, borders, refugees, and Jerusalem.  And the goal is clear:  Two states living side by side in peace and security -- a Jewish state of Israel, with true security for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people.  (Applause.) 

As we pursue this goal, we will also pursue peace between Israel and Lebanon, Israel and Syria, and a broader peace between Israel and its many neighbors.  In pursuit of that goal, we will develop regional initiatives with multilateral participation, alongside bilateral negotiations. 
         
Now, I am not naïve.  I know this will be difficult.  But all of us -- not just the Israelis and the Palestinians, but all of us -- must decide whether we are serious about peace, or whether we will only lend it lip service.  To break the old patterns, to break the cycle of insecurity and despair, all of us must say publicly what we would acknowledge in private.  The United States does Israel no favors when we fail to couple an unwavering commitment to its security with an insistence that Israel respect the legitimate claims and rights of the Palestinians.  (Applause.)  And -- and nations within this body do the Palestinians no favors when they choose vitriolic attacks against Israel over constructive willingness to recognize Israel's legitimacy and its right to exist in peace and security. (Applause.)

We must remember that the greatest price of this conflict is not paid by us.  It's not paid by politicians.  It's paid by the Israeli girl in Sderot who closes her eyes in fear that a rocket will take her life in the middle of the night.  It's paid for by the Palestinian boy in Gaza who has no clean water and no country to call his own.  These are all God's children.  And after all the politics and all the posturing, this is about the right of every human being to live with dignity and security.  That is a lesson embedded in the three great faiths that call one small slice of Earth the Holy Land.  And that is why, even though there will be setbacks and false starts and tough days, I will not waver in my pursuit of peace.  (Applause.) 

My Impressions:

So... america does not accept the legitimacy of "Israeli settlements" (the ones the israeli army forcibly evicts?) it seems ethnic cleansing is OK as long as Arabs do it to Israelies. While in israel, arabs are free to live in arab settlements and villages.

Also, end the OCCUPATION? israel withdrew... but wait, he wants them to have a continguous territory... meaning that the west bank and gaza must be connected. That means israel MUST be bisected into north and south israel. Any many israeli cities like sderot (which he mentions) must be cleansed of israelies.

Let me say that again.. Obama is calling for the splitting of Israel, to grant the palastinians a continguous territory. And end "Israeli occupation" by returning "occupied territories".

So... the United states will be doing israel a FAVOR by forcing it to "respect the legitimate claims" which includes bisecting israel and forcing it to open its borders to terrorists (because it is so cruel to not give unfettered access to your country to people who refuse to build on their own and want to build their economy on your back).

Finally... oh the poor palastinians, they have NO CLEAN WATER (lie, they do) and no country to call his own (israel unilaterally withdrew from all territories years ago... and they have made a state, one which is failing due to their own corruption and insistence on fighting israel) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

here is a map of the region showing the gaza strip and west bank.


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on Nov 02, 2009

Guys, stop whining and get over the victimhood...Isreal is a very powerful state.

No thanks to you, Lula.

Apparently G-d disagrees with your opinion on whether Israel has a right to exist.

Israel is a very powerful state indeed. But her powers are controlled by a culture that doesn't advocate violence. If Israel were like the Arabs, Gaza would be glass now.

 

on Nov 02, 2009

Even though there is still lots to discuss, it's become pointless continuing discussion with you Leauki. .. having resorted to using vulgar language.

I'm shaking the dust off my shoes and moving on.

It would be worth your while to read Norman Finkelstein's, "Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History", University of California Press. 2005. He's a Jew whose had enough of the Jewish blame game and the charade of victimization.  

 

 

 

on Nov 03, 2009

Even though there is still lots to discuss, it's become pointless continuing discussion with you Leauki. .. having resorted to using vulgar language.

That's what you say about everyone you are arguing with. I saw it in the thread about gay marriage as well.

 

It would be worth your while to read Norman Finkelstein's, "Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History", University of California Press. 2005. He's a Jew whose had enough of the Jewish blame game and the charade of victimization. 

Pointing out lies about Jews, Judaism and Israel is NOT a "misuse of anti-Semitism".

"Jewish blame game"

I'm not blaming anyone. I just want you people to leave us alone!

(But to make it a little bit interesting I suggest you dress up as a Jew and walk through an Arab city. Just to try out the "charade of victimization".)

 

 

on Nov 03, 2009

The "charade of victimization" goes on and on:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125693376195819343.html

In his new suburban American home, Shaker Yakub, a Yemeni Jew, folded a large scarf in half, wrapped it around his head and tucked in his spiraling side curls. "This is how I passed for a Muslim," said the 59-year-old father of seven, improvising a turban that hid his black skullcap.

The ploy enabled Mr. Yakub and half a dozen members of his family to slip undetected out of their native town of Raida, Yemen, and travel to the capital 50 miles to the south. There, they met U.S. State Department officials conducting a clandestine operation to bring some of Yemen's last remaining Jews to America to escape rising anti-Semitic violence in his country.

Caption of one of the pictures:

Moshe Nahari, who was murdered in December 2008 (left), and Said Ben Yisrael, whose house was firebombed (second from left), danced at a wedding celebration in Raida, Yemen in 2007.

More:

"They were one of the oldest exiled groups out of Israel," says Hayim Tawil, a Yeshiva University professor who is an expert on Yemeni Jewry. "This is the end of the Jewish Diaspora of Yemen. That's it."

 

So what do we learn from this?

1. There is a Jewish cult or "charade" of victimization. Those were friendly firebombs and the murder was done with respect.

2. There was really no need to create a Jewish state in the Middle-East. Jews are obviously completely safe in Arab countries.

3. Jews are Europeans.

4. We have to support the "Palestinian Cause" and throw ALL Jews into the sea, not just the ones from Yemen.

5. None of that has anything to do with anti-Semitism. Read Norman Finkelstein!

 

After alienating the West by backing Iraq during the first Gulf War, Yemen sought a rapprochement with Washington. In 1991, it declared freedom of travel for Jews.

And why on earth were there travel restrictions for Jews in the first place? When there are travel restrictions for Palestinian Arabs in Israel, another country at war with them, the world screams bloody murder. But noone demonstrates for the sake of Jews in Arab countries who are also subject to travel restrictions for no reason other than their Judaism.

It is very difficult indeed to believe that all that has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.

I take it Israel's indeendence day was the day anti-Semitism ended? I don't think I have heard of a single major attack against Jews advocated as a means to kill them all has been rated "anti-Semitic" since then by "peace activists" and people like Lula.

 

Ancient stone homes dot the town. Electricity is erratic; oil lamps are common. Water arrives via truck. Most homes lack a TV or a refrigerator.

Of course the real tragedy is "Palestinian" homes which (and that is a lie) have only 1/3 of the water Jewish homes have in "Palestine".

What "Palestinians" and "peace activists" describe as a nighmare is a dream for Jews living in Yemen.

Of course neither of the two have it as bad as Africans, Muslim or Christian, under Arab rule.

 

Typically, the Jewish men are blacksmiths, shoe repairmen or carpenters. They sometimes barter, trading milk and cow dung for grass to feed their livestock.

In "Palestine", Jews are accused of limiting "Palestinian" access to grazing land.

 

From the safety of his new home in suburban New York, Mr. Yakub recounted his last months in Yemen. Rocks shattered the windows of his house and car. Except for emergencies and provisions, Jews began to avoid leaving home. When they did, Mr. Yakub and other Jews took to disguising themselves as Muslims.

"Palestinians" never dress up as Jews to avoid being attacked.

 

More here: http://citizenleauki.joeuser.com/article/368247/Last_Few_Jews_Flee_Yemen

on Nov 04, 2009

Guys, stop whining and get over the victimhood...Isreal is a very powerful state.

I tell people all the time that they shouldn't be wallowing in victimhood. And I admit many jews have victim complexes...

But that doesn't mean that bigotry is non existant.

The Arabs are not at war with the Palestinian Christians living in Arab land are they?

Yes they are. if you are in arab land and are:

1. gay

2. non muslim

3. non arab

4. non religious (atheist)

5. a woman

Then you are in deep trouble. Israel has huge communities of free equal people of any race religion etc. The palastinian lands do not. and they ruitinely attack christians and hindus and other non muslims who try to live there.

on Nov 04, 2009

Yes they are. if you are in arab land and are:

1. gay

2. non muslim

3. non arab

4. non religious (atheist)

5. a woman

6. of a different Muslim sect

7. an Arab male of the same Muslim sect

 

 

on Nov 04, 2009

I just got a report that Israel is on high alert today.  Not sure of the details yet.  Now what? 

on Nov 05, 2009

I just got a report that Israel is on high alert today.  Not sure of the details yet.  Now what?

The Israeli navy intercepted a German-owned ship on its way to Lebanon with millions of dollars worth of weapons from Iran.

Apparently the "Palestinian Cause" was trying to deliver food and water to "Palestine" again.

 

on Nov 05, 2009

Apparently the "Palestinian Cause" was trying to deliver food and water to "Palestine" again.

hmmmm food that might cause just a wee bit of indigestion? 

on Nov 05, 2009

hmmmm food that might cause just a wee bit of indigestion?

Fighters for the "Palestinian Cause" and their allies have never brought the "Palestinians" anything but.

 

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