Speaking up against our would be soviet overlords.
Published on March 14, 2010 By taltamir In Politics

I have observed that naming something greatly influences how people perceive it without doing an in depth investigation. I am not the only one who has noticed that, it is a very often exploited tactics. "Big brother in your computer" has been named "trusted computing" (cia joke, you can only trust systems you have subverted); "Big brother in your cameras and phones" has been renamed "digital manners" (because they can enforce good manners by shutting your phone for you in the theater... of course that is not the only thing it can do). Both were shot down, but the battle was hard and long fought, with most people not objecting...

When I first heard "scientology" I thought it meant "I am a scientist, I do not believe in anything, not even the lack of existance of god". Now I know the term for that is agnostic, but it was an easy mistake to make.

And lets not forget the "people for the ethical treatment of animals". Who runs the only shelter in the world that murders puppies and kittens. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ because ingrid newkirk, founder and president of peta, believes cats and dogs are artificial animals bred by humans who should be allowed the dignity of death.

Then you have the organization that believes that "belief in evolution leads to atheism, which leads to evil"... so they lie to people about what evolution is and create strawman arguments to bash. You might have heard them first as creationists, later as intelligent design, and now as scientific critique. Naturally many people say "I am a creationist" because they believe god created humanity and the universe. Not realizing that the actual organization is not what it sounds likes.

So why should we let others dictate the names? lets not use their language, because by using the language of the enemy you empower the enemy. Of course, you must be smart about it. Calling "french fries" "Freedom fries" just sounds stupid and makes you look like a nut, you have to go about it the right way.

So I am asking you now, help me come up with a better name for a gun, a positive name. Something that embodies the true nature of a gun. Guns are the single greatest force for equality in human history. The ending of slavery, the emancipation of women, the right to life liberty and freedom. All your rights stem from the gun; because a gun allows even the most frail child or elderly kill a master combatant trained from youth; nobles raised to be "knights" and trained to fight from the day they are born hold no sway today, insane despots cannot suppress free people who are armed (there is a reason why all the famous despots practiced gun control). There is a saying, god created Adam and Eve, the gun made them equal. (I can appreciate the saying without believing in god).

So what are some good names? So far the best I could come up with is "personal freedom device"; but that doesn't roll off the tongue well. Maybe something simple, like "freedom" or "equality"? Any suggestions?


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on Apr 01, 2010

Israel cannot be in 10 places at once, but where it does go, it does make an impact. That is the "relative" part

Which is why supporting insurgencies at multiple points around its borders is a good way to keep it busy. Like Hizbullah, the Golan Heigh, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

on Apr 01, 2010

Which is why supporting insurgencies at multiple points around its borders is a good way to keep it busy. Like Hizbullah, the Golan Heigh, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

Hizbullah call themselves a "resistance group" but they are hardly an insurgency, at least not against Israel. Israel doesn't control any part of Lebanon. Hizbullah are just attackers.

I haven't heard anything about a Golan Heights insurgency.

 

on Apr 01, 2010

Hizbullah call themselves a "resistance group" but they are hardly an insurgency, at least not against Israel. Israel doesn't control any part of Lebanon. Hizbullah are just attackers.

I haven't heard anything about a Golan Heights insurgency.

*sigh*

You are good to fuck the flies, aren't ya?

on Oct 07, 2010

ok, time to take this thread back:

1. Absolutely no more discussion of politics and/or gun control, I will delete such any new comments to that effect (maybe I should go back and delete the old ones too). I admit I also participated (at first) in those arguments and it totally derailed the thread. So lets stay on topic.

2. Lets get back on topic and find a better name for a gun.

From last post on this actual issue (post #7)

So far we got:

Defender - references the use of self defense

Protection - similar to defender, more smooth sounding, but unfortunately will remind people of condoms

Freedom - a bit awkward, but will send the message across when you say "freedom control" and "a ban on freedom". instead of "gun control" and "a ban on guns". This is rather vague though, it will confuse people who aren't aware of the term (unlike defender and protection).

Lets keep those ideas coming.

on Oct 08, 2010

Why pretend? "Gun" (Firearm, pistol, rifle) is fine. Anything else is fantasy and probably not suited to a political forum to befin with. It is what it is. 

on Oct 08, 2010

It is what it is.

I agree, but his point is that by calling them something else, they would be more palatable to more people.  However I have to ask - to which people?  The MSM would not be fooled, and they are the ones fooling those who are opposed to guns now.

on Oct 08, 2010

I agree, but his point is that by calling them something else, they would be more palatable to more people. However I have to ask - to which people? The MSM would not be fooled, and they are the ones fooling those who are opposed to guns now.

I agree... so what is the point, beyond suggesting a different name? 97 posts, on or off topic, won't change the vernacular, nor IMO should it. Anything discussed will be in the realm of fantasy. It might be an interesting concept to some, I suppose, but there are to many real issues that bear discussion IMO. I'm not saying Tal can't or shouldn't discuss it if so inclined, I just question the value of such a topic (as its intent is non-political or social). Once everyone gives their alternate name, that pretty much ends it. Now we can move on to another name for dog since some folks are afraid of those too, my vote is "woof woof".

on Oct 08, 2010

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Why pretend? "Gun" (Firearm, pistol, rifle) is fine. Anything else is fantasy and probably not suited to a political forum to befin with. It is what it is. 

Gays prefer to be called "Gay" and not "fags" (or even "homosexual").

Pro-Choice and Pro-Life are the choice names of each respective group (each of which has quite a different name for each other).

I do not wish to "trick" anyone or even attempt to change their outlook. I wish to choose a positive name for the greatest tool of good in human history and the sole source of human rights in the modern world (it used to be melee weapons, which, being less effective, resulted in diminished human rights).

Anyways, no more discussion on why, you don't want to participate in the naming, fine, don't.

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