Obama, the lawyer turned president, sets out to ruin legal system

Published on November 17, 2009 By taltamir In Politics

Our President has started out as a lawyer, he should know better than that! Obama is setting out to have terrorists, enemy combatants, tried in a criminal case instead of military tribunal. Military Tribunal law in the USA meets or exceeds all international laws and protections, it has a variety of protections against abuse set out by congress over more than 200 years in this country. Every country has military courts, criminal courts, and civil courts that are separate entities, and for a good reason too.

The decision to try those terrorists in our criminal courts sounds innocuous enough: "give them equal human rights". But it is not about human rights, it is about LEGAL rights; and the total destruction of our legal system.

So what is the problem? The criminal court system works on precedence, it has a variety of requirements such as the right to face the accuser, the right to make the methods and individuals involved in the investigation public, the requirement to be read your miranda rights, the requirement against self incrimination (which is constitutional btw), and waterboarding is certainly not a legal thing for the police to use, there is also the potential of double jeopardy.

If they are tried in civil courts several things can happen:

1. The case is immediately dismissed and they walk free, because they were not read their rights when "arrested", they were waterboarded, they will not face their accuser, etc etc. There are at least half a dozen PROCEDURAL TECHNICALITIES that will set them free, that would have never been done had anyone actually EXPECTED them to stand a civil trial instead of military tribunal like every other war prisoner.

2. It will be a media spectacle kangaroo court where a conviction is predetermined. It will set precedents for ignoring a variety of rights afforded to american citizens, which will then infest the criminal law system.

3. It will be one of the above two, but as an extra harm, we will be forced to reveal crucial secret information. Such as informants, investigators, methods, etc.

What galls me the most is that Obama is a damn lawyer! He has been teaching law in harvard for crying out loud. How could he perform such a malicious attack on the judiciary system? How could he undermine our legal system in such a horrible way?

Don't tell me he didn't know, if he didn't know than what was he teaching in harvard law school?

Comments (Page 2)

taltamir

on Nov 19, 2009

Obama said "people will not be offended by this when they are convicted and executed".

Sounds like he is trying to do number 2... in which case:

A. This explains why he is still sending MOST terrorists to military tribunals and these to his show trial.

B. The idea is basically a media spectacle and not a real trial, and can probably be safely ignored by the judiciary system...

At least, that seems to be the plan...

there is a strong chance that my prediction number 3 will also come about. That is, that this is a method to, via a media mock up, put the entire CIA on trial, reveal their names, their faces. Reveal their methods, etc.

utemia

on Nov 19, 2009

Hindsight...unfortunately doesn't work in this case. The Nazi's didn't think the war was over, and it went on for almost three more months. As you are probably not satisfied with my answer,

In the case of history I am open to new views and perspectives. I hadn't really thought about the propaganda effects outside Germany, but rather the effect on the german population - and many had stopped believing the propaganda ministry and its radio broadcasts of victory and press releases. Have you ever watched the movie "Downfall" (Link to trailer) about the last days in Hitler's bunker? It is very creepy to watch but brilliantly done. Hitler and Co were pretending that they were victorious when in fact the russian army was advancing from the east, millions of refugees were on the roads, and the allies were advancing from the west and south. Almost every major city had been bombed, there was no food, no place to stay.. I was thinking about those things rather then what the british public thought.

(Dresden IS a cultural icon. It is beautiful - they used to call it Elb - Florence because it had a similar charm and atmosphere to Florence in Italy. Elbe is a major river there.)

Nitro Cruiser

on Nov 19, 2009

Have you ever watched the movie "Downfall"

No, that one has flown under my radar. It looks interesting though and I definitely check it out if I come across it.

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