Speaking up against our would be soviet overlords.
New healthcare similar to soviet russia, china, and cuba, not canada and UK
Published on July 18, 2009 By taltamir In Politics

The new health care bill passed in the house. Things to know:

1. on page 16 it outlaws private healthcare and REQUIRES by law that everyone be part of socialized healthcare.
2. It establishes a national health history database (to "cut costs") where the government now has complete and total monopoly over your health records, remember this is not optional.
3. It establishes strict limits on yearly expenses per person, even if the person COULD afford better insurance.
4. It excludes congressmen, who get to keep their current separate and amazingly good healthcare subsidized by taxpayers. (actually an amendment was proposed to the bill to require congressmen to be required to sign on to public healthcare, and it was shot down)
5. MASSIVELY raise taxes to pay for it.
6. INCLUDE illegal aliens.
What do you think rich business owners who can afford insurance that provides more than 50k a year in total healthcare will do when the government sets such limits? they will ESCAPE THE COUNTRY. because they are forbidden by law from getting good treatment. This is not just socialized healthcare like the UK and Canada, this is totalitarian communist care similar to the ones in China, Russia, and Cuba. The reason is control, this is a final proof (if any more was needed) that our communist overlords intend their communist revolution to be permanent, this is nothing but a power grab.

 


Comments
on Jul 19, 2009

It surprises me that so little discussion of this has occurred here.  The true intent of BO cannot be more clear.

on Jul 20, 2009

hey, Taltamir, I cannot find the bill online anywhere. Can I have a link?

 

NOTE: I am not suggesting that you are wrong. In fact, I am against this health care reform in the way that the dems are trying, I just wanna read the bill.

 

Thanks

on Jul 20, 2009

It surprises me that so little discussion of this has occurred here. The true intent of BO cannot be more clear

Like the stimulus, they are trying to throw a fast ball so nobody has time to read it first. If it is so important, why the rush? Why the impulse buyer mentality? I see a big buyers remorse headache on the horizon, if this monster passes.

on Jul 21, 2009

This is not just socialized healthcare like the UK and Canada,

Actually, I don't know what kind of healthcare you think we have in Canada, but many of the elements you are showing up-here are already including in our healthcare system, and most of the elements that aren't are actually more private-healthcare oriented.

I'd like to know a little more about the private healthcare system that will be outlawed. Why those and not others? Is it because they are considered to be inadequate coverage, and don't want the people having those healthcare coverage not be left out of the new reform?

Everybody forced to have healthcare is a good thing, generally. It relieves much stress out of the population regarding their health, and if they are still going to get coverage even if you loose your job.

Off course, there are always details that need to be improved. Our healthcare system in Canada is far from being efficient, but nobody here is afraid of getting bankrupted because of an injury or sickness.

on Jul 21, 2009

And now, the sumbitch doesn't even care what's in the damn bill, he just wants it passed.  I'm getting more & more furious at these assholes who keep trying to get unread legislation shoved down our throats.  I'm paying their asses to actually do their frickin jobs.  It's been said that Washington is just Hollywood for ugly people, but I get a helluva lot more satisfaction out of Hollywood.  If we don't throw all these incumbents out on their asses in 2010 (including the Republicans) there's no hope for this place.

on Jul 21, 2009

Everybody forced to have healthcare is a good thing, generally.

Perhaps you are unaware of the meaning of the word forced Cikomyr:

To constrain to do or to forbear, by the exertion of a power not resistible; to compel by physical, moral, or intellectual means; to coerce; as, masters force slaves to labor.

Here's the definition of freedom and choice in case you forgot about that as well:

the condition of being free; the power to act or speak or think without externally imposed restraints

the act of choosing or selecting

Sounds like opposites to me, especially when most if not all Americans would rather have freedom and choice. Otherwise places like McDonalds, Walmart, Blockbuster and Best Buy would be pointless.

on Jul 21, 2009

Everybody forced to have healthcare is a good thing, generally

Everybody already has health care - you can go to any hospital in the country and be seen without regard to ability to pay and a physician will be obligated to see you as an outpatient for follow-up until that acute illness is resolved without regard to ability to pay.  What's going to be forced on us is health insurance, or rather, higher taxes to pay for health care.

on Jul 22, 2009

Everybody forced to have healthcare is a good thing, generally. It relieves much stress out of the population regarding their health, and if they are still going to get coverage even if you loose your job.

And some people said that slaves are "better off as slaves". Than again, the Democrats were always pro slavery.

hey, Taltamir, I cannot find the bill online anywhere. Can I have a link?

These are links for the info, I do not have access to the full bill.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333066661999894

on Jul 22, 2009

It gets worse.  I think I'm going to leave the country, renounce my citizenship, then sneak back in.  I'll be fixed for life.

on Jul 22, 2009

I have one thing to say about his press con this evening:  coughbullshitcough.

on Jul 22, 2009

how about just using fake id like they do...

on Jul 23, 2009

thats probably because she is old enough to be deemed "unproductive member of society due to age" and sentances to die via denial of care.